Let's discuss further on the FTI Forum, since these are matters of detail, in terms of actually doing something on the ground. Even delivering a single seminar or street play, etc. can be a major piece of work, given resource constraints. These efforts are definitely needed, for the task of spreading the message and educating the people must go hand in hand with finding more leaders. We need to do this systematically, and ensure that we can replicate the same thing across the country.

Anyway, let's discuss further on the forum. Please raise the same issue there. More people will respond and we can actually do something concrete. Your energies will join with those of others who are on FTI. Together we can leverage each other's skills and make a difference.

Regards

Sanjeev

The issue raised by you is an argument put by almost 99% of the population that there is only one way and that is bottom-up i.e.  through the hearts of the people who vote and such people reside in rural as well as urban areas. There is no other option I agree … the question then is not how to go into the hearts of people but WHEN to….you would know that public memory is short and to create a long lasting impression you have to be really a selfless Gandhi continuously working at the grassroots…and that is too much to expect from a political leader in today's era when the people who you have to figght to bring about a CHANGE are YOUR OWN PEOPLE.  Gandhi had a charged environment  (anti-British sentiments) to support his moves but the current population do not have one. All the factors like roti-kapda-makaan-gareebi-berojgaari-corruption-unnati etc. have almost become the bottomline buzzwords with every political party and leaders.  If, to begin with, if you agree with the rationale of our ambition that either we contest to win and win 300+ to be in power & bring CHANGE or else leave India to current situation, then we just need to figure out how do we differentiate ourselves and when to go big-bang.  Currently we are working around a politico-economic philosophy (classical liberalism), reaching out to get a team of 1500 level 4+ leaders, develop a strong equalitarian organisation and then when the leaders assemble go all out for 3 years to develop constituency by working on the ground, spreading message of freedom, take people's issues and problems and work on solutions. You see there…the only missing link is why would people vote for us…only IF THE WANT CHANGE…and there lies the key. The problems will remain and the solutions in people's eyes are also well known, and the incremental efforts of various political parties will continue…once we are organised with sufficient leaders, we will build the organisation, collect funds from people/stakeholders and go allout sufficiently in time before a targetted election.

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however, if these guys have taken care of these issues, then good luck to them. I would be interested to watch them. will pass on to some others also.

RESPONSE:

I wish to thank the author of these comments for these issues are pretty typical, and invariably faced by any group that seeks to reform India. FTI is FULLY aware of these issues and has addressed them in this way:

a) This is not a one man effort. There is no 'founder', only a proposer. Anyone can propose anything. A mere proposal doesn't mean anything. Therr are millions of proposals. The one that people want is THEIR proposal. That is the one that counts. THEREFORE EVERYONE WHO JOINS FTI IS A FOUNDER. There is no single leader. Everyone on FTI is a leader.

b) The organisation has a board of two persons: Secretary and Treasurer. The Board is committed to complying with the decisions taken by the General Body (NOT Governing Body). Everyone on the team is a member of the General Body and has an equal vote. No one has any voice in FTI beyond that of any other person.

c) No document produced by FTI is declared final until at least 1500 members assemble, who are ready to contest elections within the next three years. This condition is just one of the many conditions that must be met before members consider a political effort. Leaders first. Funds and supporters next. There is no intention to win just one or two seats. Either 300 minimum or nothing. FTI members have no intention of wasting their time and money just for the pleasure of having contested elections. Each FTI member will contest ONLY TO WIN. No other goal.

The strategy of FTI is slow but sure, like the story of the tortoise and hare. Most efforts including Shiv Khera's, Lok Satta, Jago, etc. etc. etc. (the list is endless, since India has 2000 parties), have largely been driven by emotion and not strategy. A lot of energy spent with ZERO results. Frustration ensues and motivation is lost. That is not FTI. FTI is strategic and very clear: it is not doing this solo task for itself. It will do so ONLY if the people of India desperately want to improve things. We are not here to be heros. We are here to represent YOU. If you don't want change, then why would we waste our time with you?

Unless FTI is FULLY SUPPORTED by YOU, and by most people of India, its members WON'T step into the electoral arena. We won't fail because it is not us but YOU who are the failure. You the citizen have failed to find good representatives and elect them. You have failed to do anything when the country was eroding and falling into deep corruption all around you. You were the one who complained but did not raise your finger to change things. We are NOT here to beg you for votes. Unless you are DESPERATE for change we are out of here.

We are taking on the role of citizenship and offering you change. But we are not jokers, martyrs, or heros. We aren't interested in becoming failures for you to laugh at. We are not here seeking your mercy, or your votes. Unless you are DESPERATE TO VOTE FOR CHANGE, we won't even step forward to the hustings.

You the citizen are a disastrous failure. Rise and become a citizen first, if you have any spine and self-respect. Stop running after corrupt politicians and putting garlands around their neck.

If you are not serious, then we are out of here! Goodbye!

FTI invites all Indians to partner AS EQUAL CITIZENS with FTI either as a team members or Freedom Partners (http://partners.freedomteam.in/). Your ACTIVE support is CRUCIAL. Else we are not wasting our time on trying to reform India. We don't need your good luck. YOU NEED GOOD LUCK to survive in India! Are you going to make your luck or take the corruption and decadence for granted? The ball is in YOUR hands, not ours.

Regards

Sanjeev SAbhlok

http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/

You could verify through a lawyer whether your membership of FTI is compatible with Conduct Rules (in principle I see no conflict). FTI Trust Deed is available at: http://freedomteam.in/blog/trust-deed.

If Conduct Rules prevent your joining FTI, please do so after retirement. In the meanwhile please read a lot, and contribute in other ways through comments on draft policies, etc.

Regards
Sanjeev

Dr. Ranjit Powar

Thanks for your thoughts. May I encourage you to wait for a few more months to allow FTI to put out its policies more clearly so you can then see what the message of freedom looks like? One thing FTI doesn’t aim to become is a patriotism generating organisation. It would be hard to argue that India is suffering today from shortage of patriotism anyway. It is suffering from lack of freedom and good governance. FTI is a group the members of which are focused purely on becoming people’s representatives and transforming India’s governance. FTI needs good leaders to join this effort. That could be thought of as a patriotic duty by all good citizens.

Regards
Sanjeev

“”plenty of time for these three members (nominated to a particular constituency) to work on their constituency at the ground level and spread the (“”message of freedom”"). This would include developing a cadre of supporters for the (relevant) FTI-associated party”"”

please explain your “”message of freedom’” that you want to spread ??

“”"During these three years, surveys could be commissioned by FTI to determine which member has the best chance of getting votes in that seat.”"”

how do you that ???

it seems that same plans are being used by the “big guys”

what i feel is required know is to generate patriotism among people , thats it forget about election , mps , mlas,

one suggestion i want to give you is “we cant change a man’s character, as it may take more than 100 years and we are not monks ” – winston chruchill

You have a good point. We need to think ahead of time about potential options. There are indeed many potential ways for the Team (when it assembles and agrees to the blueprint) to nominate members. I have some initial thoughts here but far more clarity will be needed as the approprite time comes. And in any event this will have to be a team activity and process. Many other ideas will need to be considered.

Step 1: Each FTI member (once assembled they would become member of some political party/federation) could opt for three constitutencies of which one would be allocated to them based on a range of factors such as availability, suitability, etc. Criteria for such allocation would need to be worked out in detail.

Step 2: Given that at least three years of ground work would be required between assembly and electoral launch, there would be plenty of time for these three members (nominated to a particular constituency) to work on their constituency at the ground level and spread the message of freedom. This would include developing a cadre of supporters for the (relevant) FTI-associated party, as well as operating a blog dealing with local issues.

Step 3: During these three years, surveys could be commissioned by FTI to determine which member has the best chance of getting votes in that seat. Contributions to FTI-associated party’s overall development would also be a factor, as also the ability to raise funds. The three members could also nominate an order of preference amongst themselves. The cadre of supporters would need to also have input into the selection. Essentially, it would be a transparent exercise without the possibility of conflict.

Step 4: At the appropriate time (at least 1 years before potential elections) one FTI member would be nominated; the second would be declared as standby, and the third member will always be ready to move up the chain if necessary. These three would function as a team and work with their cadres towards the success of the main FTI supported candidate, with the broader support of FTI-associated party/parties. It is crucial for all three to work together closely at all times.

Step 5: After the election, those who did not win, and those remaining, would be nominated for state assembly elections. No one’s leadership potential would be wasted. The best leaders would always have the chance to get nominated and to rise to positions of influence.

Regards
Sanjeev Sabhlok
http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/breakingfree.html

If our hypothesis of hoping that one day or another we will have those genuine 1500 leaders who would contest election , we need to accept this as an achievable target, if we have doubts in that, then better change our ambitions right now and act accordingly.

So, the better approach to get through this is to accept we will have those 1500 leaders, hence the questions to be asked and worked down is how these people will be given all the chances, help and support from FTI to win elections and above all sustain in a complex and deprived political arena such as India.

We cannot just think that solutions will emerge once we have those 1500 gems free of all human defects at any circumstances. We need to discuss these issues from the very beginning but keeping in mind that all conclusions will be questioned and reviewed as long as FTI will survive which will bring you to the conclusion that discussing and finding problems will not trigger with that magic number of 1500 but with a consensus we create among members at a given time and our ability to review them once questioned at any moment.

Best Regards,
Magesh